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    Paul
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    My two stroke runs with about 375-380V on the output tube plate and 345-350V on the grid. The preamp tube runs about 145/150 each side.

    I’m using a NOS Sylvania rectifier and the 125V primary tap on the PT. When I first used the 120V tap, I was getting about 400V on the plate and 370ish on the grid.

    The PT is the weber as spec’d and it has 330V and 300V taps on the secondary, i’m using the 330 and capping off the 300.

    1) Since I’m running high relative to DH specs from the book, does it make sense to try to lower these output tube voltages, or at least on the grid? If so, to do that would I increase the 10k/5w resistor? If so by how much?

    2) What will be the effect of lower vs higher voltages on the output tube – less headroom vs more headroom? What about volume?

    3) If there are going to be interesting differences between different voltages, is it worth putting the 120V/125V and 330V/300V taps on switches?

    Thanks.

    #5778
    Andy
    Keymaster

    Those kind of changes can be expected depending on the tube. The Russian (Sovtek) rectifiers run a bit hotter than some of the others. It is still pretty well within spec for the tubes used.

    Personally, I wouldn’t make changes to the biasing there. Biasing hotter (more voltage) gives you more headroom and more power, thus more volume (theoretically). But the tubes die quicker. Running these as you are describing is not really running “hot” as much as a but hotter than with the other rectifier so you are really in a good place with your measured levels.

    Tube curves are a fun thing to get into. Here are a couple good sources:

    http://www.webervst.com/tubes1/calcbias.htm

    http://www.duncanamps.com/index.htm

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    #5785
    Paul
    Participant

    added the switch to go between the 300 and 330v taps.

    the 300v setting gives me 345v on the plate and 316v on the grid.

    exactly 30v less .

    no change in volume or tone .

    are the lower voltages better for the tube?

    #5786
    Robin
    Participant

    Yes….slightly. Lower voltage is kinder to the tubes but either voltage is acceptable, so go with what sounds best.

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